上次貼了合盤的金星火星之後答應大家如果討論回應多達10篇就要告訴大家一點小秘密，只是我很不解的事占星學院的同學怎麼這麼有愛心啊！Askein 還有珍小花…幫忙貼滿十篇這樣你們付錢學的東西不就會外流了嗎：P
那麼我們來談談關於合盤相位吧！人文占星學的合盤相位並不像是傳統的觀念一樣那麼死，最重視的是哪兩顆行星交流，但是有一個特例，也在上次談小貝和貝嫂的圖當中談到那就是關於年齡太接近的人的三王星先不要看得太嚴重，因為如果你自身有三王星與個人行星的相位，同時那幾年出生的人都會對你產生同樣的影響，所以我們視為外界環境影響而非個人影響。
接著我們來看是哪兩顆行星交流特質，你會感受到對方行星替你帶來得刺激，強硬相位也好柔和相位也好，無論是哪一種相位你都會先感受到對方行星（+星座）的特質，然後接著才是由相位的特質來判斷互動的容易與困難。
一般來說日月、月月、日金、月金、金金、金火、月火之類的相位有著最深刻的情感互動，同時也可以加上一宮守護與七宮守護的相位。
代表著互動容易的包括了
六分相：是一種寓教於樂的相位，兩人的互動頻繁卻充滿了歡樂與成長。
三分相：兩人有一定的默契，且能夠互相接受彼此的互動。
但是容易互動也代表著不會去強力約束對方所以也不具有約束力，意思是說很可能好聚好散也不一定。
強烈互動的相位包括了合相與對分相，他們都具有強烈的連結與約束力。
合相：表示兩人的能量互相交流，能夠產生密切的互動，行星互相影響對方透過你的行星出現，會讓對方的表現出現改變，假設小貝原本金星在二宮，愛的安全感藏在心理，表現的並不明顯，但透過貝嫂的火星出現來激發他的表現，讓他這種愛的安全感或愛的物質贈與可以被刺激出來。但是有些行星的合相常會帶來不舒服例如火星、土星、冥王等想想看他們的特質！
對分相：沒有一個現代占星師把合盤的對分相當作是「壞」的相位，記住，對分相一直有伴侶關係的互動意涵，只是在互動上需要一種覺醒，而不像是合相或柔和相位那樣莫名其妙就接受了，如果你能夠察覺不同然後透過理解予接受就甚至可以產生強烈互動與互補的特質，但記住了！前提是要思考察覺彼此的不同。
不太好搞定的相位：例如4分相與十二分之五相往往要花上很長很長很長的時間去適應調整。
十二分之五相（150）：這個相位是現代占星師認為帶來最具有活力的伴侶關係的相位，有很多這樣相位或是有重要行星形成這個相位（例如 日月 月月 日金 月金 月火 等）都會帶來極度的刺激，150度在心理占星當中代表了不斷的調整，有點向是班長在整隊時喊「向前看齊」，結果大家小碎步亂踩一通，反正我有在調正位置就是了，卻不知到到底有沒有對齊（誰在排隊時這麼認真啊？） 所以這個相位長帶來很多歡喜冤家，覺得自己為對方付出很多，可是對方常常不夠感激，因為這個相位帶來的調整，根、本、沒、對、齊、嘛！
四分相：這是最、最、最、男搞定的相位，如果有重要的個人行星形成這樣的相位（參考前面舉的幾個例子）或是有很多這樣的相位，那麼你們之間一定是天怒人怨的，不過卻也因為有這樣的相位還是會把你們緊緊的連在一起，但是只要一再一起就會發生互相干擾或阻礙的事情，這件事情的錯常錯在自我而沒有察覺對方和自己不同對方也是一個人有自己的想法和作法，就算察覺了也很難認同的！更遭的事還想強迫對方照著自己的方法去做那就真的會出問題囉！
不知道這樣的小技巧有沒有幫助大家呢？我還是不能說太多，不然小花和Askein會被其他占星學院的付費上課的同學給海扁的！想學更多的話只好請大家來報名明年的進階班或是寶靈魔法學苑的課程或是等我出書了：P
突然發現討論真的很好玩！有人還想再討論的嗎？出個聲音我就找好玩的星盤貼上來。
突然發現討論真的很好玩！有人還想再討論的嗎？出個聲音我就找好玩的星盤貼上來。
推薦上專欄
好耶
投贊成票感恩
感恩...小魯老師收下了
雖然我很想問一方的金火與對方天海的交會會有怎樣奇妙關係與吸引力
(好想知道阿)(扭)
我和老娘就是有月金合又金金四分
所以沒辦法很在意對方又一天到晚看對方不順眼然後內傷半死
連要出去旅行的前10分鐘都在吵
害我出去像在排隊看齊
終於...活著回來了
笑
很期待老師的出書或是開課
老師的書我有買喲~~~
很想看一下小布跟安吉莉娜的合盤
是什麼造就了這麼激情的一對
不愧是月雙
不過沒有八卦喔
金火與天海這點
我是在老師的書上合盤裡看到這點
看老師寫的那~麼神秘,所以才想知道啦
至於大提琴..老師發現啦
我既拉大提琴也是杜普蕾的粉絲喔
在發現老師也拉大提琴的時候
感覺還真是有緣呢~
話說英國是杜普蕾的故鄉呢
好想去看看阿
(突然很想讀讀杜普蕾的星盤XD)
至於買琴阿...英國琴是不錯啦
可是老師不會比較想買義大利或法國琴嗎?
雖然說找到自己中意的比較重要啦
我也想換琴了說 用7萬元的琴很久了
不過現在沒錢...
版主有篇很好的文章：「本命盤的承諾」，或許應該先回頭看看各自的本命盤金火與天海，再來看相位，會又更深刻的體會。
此外，我相信占星學是「實證主義」外加「人文修養」的科學。我的意思是，如同德佛札克的大提琴協奏曲，每個音樂家的詮釋都不一樣（因為人文修養不同）。如果你是入門者，商店裡面的店員一定都推薦杜普蕾版，但是買回家一聽，有「喜歡」與「不喜歡」兩種結果（實證主義）。
解盤也是一樣，個人本命盤金火與天海的人文素養到底發展到什麼程度？因此，聽在讓對方本命盤金火與天海耳朵中，會有何種「共鳴」？這些是實證的部分。
我男朋友的金火跟我的天王合相，到現在我還是想不透，為什麼只見過一次面(而且我自認並不算很愉快)，他就說感覺對了，交往吧。
我想這應該跟他本命盤裡就有金天合相有關...吧。
我的日水跟他的水金火天180，每次討論事情的時候，一開始一定雞同鴨講，到最後才發現兩個人的決定根本就是一樣的，只是中間的思考邏輯不同，用詞也不同。
好在年紀都大了，不會為爭辯的過程動怒，只是釐清彼此的邏輯和動機需要一點時間。
好玩的星盤，請小魯老師找些特別一點的喔，例如靈媒、精神病患、重症意外等的，越特殊越好，不知道其他網友對這種星盤有沒有興趣呢? 看大家的討論也可以學到很多呢。
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沒錯四分相真的是誰也不服誰
不過我尊重老人家[通常是私底下動作啦]
一定是先聽她的
回過頭來再想她說的是否有道理再去做自己的事情
旅行比較累是因為缺少時間去轉化自己內心的火氣
所以拼命忍耐當然會...累到不行
佛心啊真是需要佛心
我到現在才知道小魯老師在國外
笑
老師不要三條黑線掉下來
原來老師是月雙我弟也是月雙我娘疑似月雙
我還不會校正出生時間
因為還沒買到某本大作
我是金雙
所以也是愛說話愛看流行好奇寶寶一隻
因為金星是我的領導行星咩
老娘在呼叫了
3秒不到會耳朵痛
掰
難怪
No wonder I always got some problems with someone...but good to understand it..I like astrology even I haven't been in lesson for a long time...Cheers...teacher
合盤討論
合盤討論
討論討論討論
YA~~~
'bad' conjuction or not up to the nature of native
please excuse my English 'cause my Chinese software is not available at this moment..quote yours"some conjunction may bring discomforts according to the nature of these planets/stars such as Mars, Saturn and Pluto.."
in my opinion the "nature" can be pro/con depending on the "Native's Nature" though; for instance myself as a native with nature of 1st house Jupiter(bright side?) plus my hard-aspect-absent Saturn,the fact my Vertex conjunct his Venus/Saturn rather disciplines the way I bring about my relationship( 'n how to balance out my emotion) than suffocate my interaction toward the other. Hence I suppose the foresaid "the nature of planets" should be considered a subordinated cause as the "nature of the very native" is the priority cause literally.
BTW, great site~! enormous pleasure to read~ appreciated, thank you*^^*
thanks for your inspired feedback..
it reminded me maybe the credit of "pragmatic Saturn effect" should belong to me ^^ not him cuz my Saturn has no hard aspect at all but trine to Pluto 'n sextile to Nepture while is located in the Capricorn on my 2nd house(meaning my down-to-earth standpoint of value?); whereas my counter party's Cancer owned Saturn/Venus is on the tip top of a T-square w/o any soft aspect at all(square to Moon/Pluto/Mars/Jupiter)~ rarely can I see a chance he'd stand...thusly my Vertex conjunct his Saturn/Venus could possibly activates "MY Saturn" as well?
yet it could be my self-absorbed opinion again, you know being a cocky-go-lucky Jupitarian for all my life~ ops!
"the Navtive's nature"?
yup, you're rite, I got the term from Master Howared Sasportas in one his seminars of psychological astro, guess you're gonna join one or you already did? I attended for healing of my inner Hades Moon child( Pluto conjunct Moon in 10th opposite my Venus conjunct Krion in 4th...for an agenda like this, imagine it.. misery stopped once I encountered psycho-astro, now I'm addicted.).
I've learned regaining my happy kid inside is never too late, thx to his seminar that which made me an ever humble human looking up to It all mighty Universe.
as Mr.Sasportas you're developing a unique position usin' astro as a counselling tool for psychological healing~it ought to become the trend of the Age of Aquarius, you guys are pioneers for sure(esp. astrologers in TW as well as all others in non-western area)~ Cheer!
'n my best regards.
well.. as a "psi" I am, I shall be able to ..
join Sasportas' program in "another plane", why not?..hahaa, just kidding.yeah,did one of his seminars of the development of the personalty. Greene is still the co-director of the Centre w/Charles Harvey, ain't it?
cant agree you more- synastry charts are the data of projection and perception of a couple, hence overlapping each other naturally. base on my personal experience they( the projecting, perceiving and stuff within) tie up so well with Jung's mystical synchronicity in the line of counselling astrology as well as in the daily personal affairs, dont you think?
cite the story I read ab't an astrologer couldn't rid her influence outta a chart she read since the very consciousness of the "observer" is always involved with the "being observed", consciousness = pure energy,whereat astro chart = a sheer energy map-out.. result? stepping in the chart holder's destiny is simply inevitable; interesting enough, she then indeed found the part she shared in her client's chart, this is a true story.
it proved to me again, astro is existing in the plane outta time-space(therefore meeting H. Sasportas is NOT a problem to you either, scared not~wink wink~^^~), it's beyond.it is the built-in cosmic-inter exchange of projection/perception through our inner selves that cause experiences of our sensory nerves react toward such as 'synchronicity'- it wouldn't be called "mysterious" have people known the essence of astrological organism(which is as mutual as eternal).
excuse my blah-blah(sigh..woman ..), you may save your precious time replying to my silliness~ wish you a Great coming weekend.
again, thanks.
btw, my Jupiter is on the cusp of 2nd house,
(orb 1.8-2), besides Saturn of Capricorn, Scorpio/Sagittarius/Capricorn all three signs co-rule my 2nd house, its a rather a paradox to the common sense of astro.my true feeling(or pattern) under the mixture of their energy? Honestly, 'til this day I'm still unable to go the the bank myself,I am a finance idiot plus math. retarded who is living as a Gypsy without the karma of marketplaces( never been through any 9-5 job, carry only short-terms as my hobbies.)
though I never worry ab't taking care of myself independently, there's always a well off supporting system 'happened to me'(Jupiter luck?).
Value that I focus on is solely the seeking of Truth( sort of "who am I ?", the existential quest ), yeh whatever philosophical/metaphysical s**t^^ is wherever I seriously value about- is that simple.
as for this All-good-aspect-Capricorn Saturn in my 2nd house, frankly speaking, I need a explanation too...what a waste- I should be a Banker!